Out of the FOG

Getting Started => Board Information & Questions => Topic started by: gary on December 05, 2011, 12:25:04 AM

Title: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: gary on December 05, 2011, 12:25:04 AM
Out of the FOG proudly introduces the publication of our e-book:

(http://www.outofthefog.net/ebook/OOTF_BookCover_icon.jpg)

Out of the FOG
Information & Support for
those with a family member or loved one
who suffers from a personality disorder

by Gary Walters
and the Out of the FOG Team


Available now on the following platforms:

Amazon Kindle (http://www.amazon.com/Out-FOG-Information-Personality-ebook/dp/B00642W3F8/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1323319188&sr=1-5)
Apple iPad & iPhone (http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/out-of-the-fog/id494786108?mt=11)
Barnes & Noble Nook (http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/out-of-the-fog-gary-walters/1107149896?ean=2940013554740&itm=78&usri=out+of+the+fog)


...with a Print Edition Coming Soon!

Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: gary on December 05, 2011, 12:41:04 AM
We are all real excited about this being published with goal is to reach more people that need help and those who will one day be offering that help.

  Every book has to have an author and I know it says me as the author on the cover.

If we were to have put everyones names on this who are actually the authors we would have had to published 2 books. One with the information and one for who actually authored this book.

It would include every moderator and administrator past and present and every member who's lives have been spilled across this forum for years that inspired us on and on and still do.

So if there are any "Thank Yous" to come they need to be spread all around.

I want to personally thank all the Mods and Admins here past and present for hanging in there and a special thanks to eclipse who actually did all the nuts and bolts work to make it into a form to be published while the Mods and Adimns here feed information, did constant research, and a flow of ideas, writting and patience.
 
I haven't kept a clock on it but it has been in production for over a year.

Thanks to all the members as well for keeping us humble and by being here help us to not forget where we all came from and want to go.

You are all a true inspiration to us and others here and yet to come...... Thanks :yes:
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: Klarity Belle on December 05, 2011, 11:55:36 AM
 :applause: I'm so excited the ebook is out there, I hope this valuable information finds it's way to the eyes, minds and hearts of many more who need it. A big congratulations to everyone involved both past and present, this is an incredible milestone for OOTF  :applause:
 :fireworks:
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: Varja on December 05, 2011, 07:55:13 PM
That's awesome Gary! Congratulations on paying it forward ..   :applause:
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: Wornout on December 05, 2011, 10:22:00 PM
And what exactly is in there?
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: gary on December 05, 2011, 10:34:04 PM
There are no copies of any threads but tons of references and information that is just handy to have on board for some people right on their smart phones, tablets ect without having to log on to the net to get to it.

Great for students as well.

It's only a buck...buy one...LOL

If anyone does don't forget there is a section where you can write a review...Thanks

Oh and we do not pocket the money. What there may be will be fuel for the forum.
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: Holly on December 06, 2011, 07:39:31 PM
 :yeahthat:  Cograts, gary, you did it!  That was hard work, but you overcame all the obstacles.  Now, if we all read that, it will help immensely!     :yourock:
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: lookingup on December 06, 2011, 08:40:34 PM
It's only a buck...buy one...LOL

If anyone does don't forget there is a section where you can write a review...Thanks


I did, and I will!
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: gary on December 06, 2011, 09:41:14 PM
Thank you

All the folks who worked so hard on this appreciate it.
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: vegwell on December 24, 2011, 10:25:02 PM
I really need a kindle or some kind of pad.  Both so i can read the book, which looks great, and also so I can carry it around and teach myself Spanish in my spare time.  It is a real accomplishment to produce a book that might help so many people who make their way here, broken and sometimes bleeding....needing help and information.  Thanks for everything all the past and current and future mods and administrators have done, do now, and will do.
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: Aames on December 25, 2011, 10:33:26 PM
vegwell - Kindle has a free e-reader application which you can download to your laptop or PC - you can then purchase and read any book available for Kindle from Amazon,  or choose from thousands of free books in the public domain.   I have the free app on my netbook and absolutely love it -

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&docId=1000426311&tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=7893047648&ref=pd_sl_3ies3d4yuc_b

Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: Holly on December 27, 2011, 05:07:48 PM
Thanks a bunch!  You all are awesome!  :yeahthat:
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: eclipse on January 21, 2012, 07:19:01 PM
All, the e-book is now also available in iTunes for the iPad and iPhone.

I've been stunned by how well the e-book is selling since it was released in November - about 4 or 5 times faster than I initially expected.

Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: Klarity Belle on January 22, 2012, 01:07:29 PM
All, the e-book is now also available in iTunes for the iPad and iPhone.

I've been stunned by how well the e-book is selling since it was released in November - about 4 or 5 times faster than I initially expected.

This is great news  :thumbup:
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: kimrose on February 04, 2012, 09:54:42 AM
I am not very computer savvy. I want to download OOTF book to my laptop until I can afford a reader. Can it be done and how do I go about it? could you please help me?
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: eclipse on February 04, 2012, 08:12:24 PM

Try this:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=sv_kinh_1?ie=UTF8&docId=1000493771

Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: atwittsend on February 22, 2012, 11:52:17 AM
This is amazing guys!  hahaha I will have to purchase a copy! 
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: justlearning on May 09, 2012, 09:22:15 AM
Will someone give me a heads-up when the print version is ready for purchase?
I'm still kind of old-fashioned about books---I like the tactile experience of holding it in my hands...
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: gary on June 24, 2012, 03:19:18 PM
It's not in the works at this moment but it is being kicked around.

I forget now the number of pages it really amounts to but it seemed enormous. :P
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: Aames on June 25, 2012, 07:53:47 AM
I've no idea when - let alone if - a hard-copy (print) version of the OOTF e-book would become available. 

There are some practical reasons for us not having ventured into making the book available in hard copy.

 While self-publishing is now a reality in print-land - and the minimum order of books required for a "run"  is actually pretty low (even for hard cover books), as you can imagine - the fewer books ordered - the higher the cost per unit.   

The costs of publishing (which include printing, binding, shipping to the warehouse or physical sales points, marketing the book, then shipping again to the end-consumer) necessarily get passed along to the buyer -  so then, our e-book, which is currently available for wireless auto-delivery to your computer or e-reader for about $2.99 (US) suddenly costs you - the consumer -  $22.99 plus shipping and handling.   You don't receive any more value for your two thousand percent mark-up (infact less - I'll get in to that in a minute)  and we don't see any increase in profitability.

The pupose of the OOTF book has always been to get information in to the hands of people who need it, at an affordable price.   Bonus to the reader:  Because the OOTF book is an e-book - we've made it a living document - and it continues to evolve, as we evolve, with updated information and insights into the world of personality disorders and coping with a PD loved one.

That's important -- look for updates soon as we revise sections of the website and the book to reflect the new order of the DSM V.

I mentioned profitability before.   To be clear, nobody is making money off the OOTF book.
In other words - nobody draws a salary or gets any kind of stipend.  We're all still unpaid volunteers around here.   

Making money for ourselves never was the purpose of publishing.   Helping the website and support forums to become self-sustaining was (and is).   

Currently, between private donations, and sales of the e-book -  We make just enough to sustain / maintain the website and message board, pay our annual fees to maintain our domain name, the costs of having and maintaining a dedicated server  - for website building software purchases / updates, and to plan for future updates to the website and support board infrastructures.  There's a little put aside in there for emergenciy IT assistance (if needed).   

We're all so very proud of the e-book and the fact that it is helping us to make this site self-sustaining.    Getting involved in publishing a hard-copy of the book is just something that isn't currently practical, or profitable.   We'd have to take pretty much the balance of our entire account just for seed money for a very limited run.  Robbing Peter to invest in Paul, when we
know Paul isn't going to pay dividends - and may lose the investment - We're just not anywhere near there.

I hope that explains it  a bit better.

 






Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: Roses N Daisies on July 08, 2012, 12:23:28 PM
I am a book lover! I love holding books and having them on my shelf to read and re-read and dog-ear and underline, so I am eagerly awaiting the print version. Soon I hope???!!!
Thank you,
Roses :thumbup:
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: Aames on July 08, 2012, 12:53:49 PM
Roses - read the post just above yours.  We have no plans to publish a hard-copy book - the post above explains why it's not a cost-effective endeavor.
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: Roses N Daisies on July 08, 2012, 10:16:25 PM
Aames,
Oh well. I will get the E-book, and be grateful! Thank you for letting me know.
Roses
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: Is this me?? on September 02, 2012, 05:53:05 PM
Hi.. is there a link where  can buy for my android phone??
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: Charles6722 on September 26, 2012, 03:25:34 PM
I bought my kindle version!!  It is Awesome!!

C.E.-
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: Holly on November 06, 2012, 09:11:34 AM
I am hoping I get a kindle to read this.  Is there a book available on line that I can transfer to my computer? 
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: moglow on November 06, 2012, 09:54:42 AM
Holly, see reply #15 by Eclipse above. 
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: viki on May 14, 2015, 01:33:24 PM
Is the book still on amazon, I searched without success.
If there is a link
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: Latchkey on May 14, 2015, 02:47:48 PM
Is the book still on amazon, I searched without success.
If there is a link

viki,

Here is a post with links that should work. I was able to find it on Amazon using the searchbox as well.

http://outofthefog.net/forum/index.php?topic=7583

Latchkey
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: DoOver on June 28, 2015, 10:12:11 AM
Any way I can listen to it on my Android. Would really love to get it!
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: eclipse on June 29, 2015, 08:24:52 PM
Alas no - or at least not yet. There may be a downloadable app that can convert text to speech, but that's not exactly the same as having an audiobook.
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: xayaz on May 02, 2016, 06:24:04 PM
Are any forum posts, or excerpts from posts, published in the e-book?
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: xredshoesx on May 03, 2016, 09:29:53 AM
this is from when the release was initially done. 

There are no copies of any threads but tons of references and information that is just handy to have on board for some people right on their smart phones, tablets ect without having to log on to the net to get to it.

Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: xayaz on May 03, 2016, 05:12:04 PM
Hi RedShoes,

Thx for replying.  I had read this whole thread, including the post from which you've quoted, but I still wasn't clear on whether there are any individual posts quoted in the e-book.  Does "no copies of any threads" mean that there are no individual posts or excerpts from posts quoted in the e-book?
Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: eclipse on May 04, 2016, 02:04:36 PM
xyz there were a few cases over the years where a thread (or post) became inspiration for a new page or addendum to a page on the website (which ultimately became material used in the e-book)  The Avoidant PD page is one example of that. The Boundaries page is another. In most cases the contributor was an admin but in a few cases it was a member or small group of members. Sometimes there was a direct quote with a reference to the members name and sometimes we combined input into a single paragraph with the OOTF "Voice" However we only used anyone's quote after first asking their permission and also asking them to review the page prior to publication.

Title: Re: OOTF e-Book !
Post by: xayaz on May 04, 2016, 08:39:29 PM
Thx Eclipse.