Asperger Syndrome vs PD

Started by ploughthrough2021, May 09, 2021, 04:32:42 PM

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Boat Babe

Just keep trying. Off topic here but my 25 year old just completed his Master's degree, with Distinction, and he is on the spectrum. Prepare him well for independent living (Budgeting, healthy cooking and eating, personal safety and, most important, asking for help) Best of luck to your boy.
It gets better. It has to.

JustKeepTrying

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Congratulations!  I am so excited for you Boatbabe!  Thank you for the advice!

Hazy111

I read the article and i think its unbelievably superficial and shallow.  It makes me angry. Where does it lead us?  It starts off saying narcissism is a a spectrum and so is Aspergers , then goes on to say how you spot the differences in an un ironically  black and white , splitting "PD" ways.

Then it quotes studies that narcissism or PD to be more accurate may have a genetic element, with a nod to emotionally neglectful childhood.  There have been no genetic studies despite years and years of study to prove it.  PD is not genetic , its created in the first year of life as a failure in a secure attachment between the primary carer and the child.  But this is still very socially unacceptable . Genes get the blame for a whole lotta things , the "gene tyranny" , its like modern day astrology . "He/she does this this because hes a Virgo with Capricorn rising. "  :roll:

It maybe more of an  interest to study the overlap between " schizoid personality disorder " and aspergers. Which i think there is a very strong overlap.

I have a neighbour who i think may well be  "schizoid ". Hes worked all his life and is now retired, never had a relationship and lived on his own.  But sometimes his conversation can become so left field that i think hes saying  things to annoy me (my narcissism). Its like a constant rebuttal of what i say followed by bizarre statements. But on reflection i dont think that was his attention and  that i think he may well have some aspergers too. Ive never discussed it with him

He definitely has "OCPD" as he struggles to leave home without first disconnecting the gas electric water. locking up  securely etc which he regards as perfectly normal . He wears layers and layers of clothes even when its hot, but says he does this because of the pockets and worries he might lose his keys.

Likewise he wears fishermens heavy duty legging waterproofs in case it "may rain" over his trousers and a waterproof jacket, but wont use an umbrella.

He genuinely doesnt care what other people think of him.  He seems to live in world of his own and has several hobbies that he does on his own which hes very content with.

Starboard Song

Quote from: Hazy111 on May 12, 2021, 08:52:48 AM
I read the article and i think its unbelievably superficial and shallow.  It makes me angry. Where does it lead us?  It starts off saying narcissism is a a spectrum and so is Aspergers , then goes on to say how you spot the differences in an un ironically  black and white , splitting "PD" ways.

It certainly was a superficial article, if we are both talking about Narcissism or Asperger's? How to Tell the Difference. It's just a brief blog post, so it lightly defines two similar conditions, and then provides a list of contrasts that are reasonably non-controversial. You're right, that it doesn't solve a lot of problems. Neither does it make any strong and clear statements about root causes of either condition.

I found that the article I am linking here provides a helpful definition, and a helpful way to distinguish between two commonly confused conditions. To each his own, of course. But I suspect this is helpful to many people looking for a wikipedia-level overview.
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