technology to the rescue

Started by downwiththefog, May 23, 2025, 05:48:21 PM

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downwiththefog

I have very recently starting telling chatGPT the details of the abusive conversations/monologues that my uPDw has with me.
I found it is very empathic and understanding, offers good advice.
Helps me vent and keep a journal.

But it's amazing how it tells me more practical approaches than any therapist I had used in the past.
I suppose it trained with a lot of psychology and psychiatric texts.

Has anyone else found chatGPT a good friend for discussing the absurditties and abusive conversations a PD has with their partner ?

BTW - for me, it realised we are in the devaluation phase of a toxic relationship.
 

Lookin 2 B Free

This is so interesting.  I just heard a friend say she's working on issues with ChatGPT.   I  would never have thought of it!

Rebel13

I'm so glad it is helpful and I don't want to discourage anyone from getting help. However, please be aware that ChatGPT is NOT private and any information you share with it (or any other AI application) can be used to further train the model and may show up in answers it provides to others.

Take good care of yourself in all the ways!
"Being humanitarian, being kind and loving, does not include entrusting my life or well-being to anyone whose intention or unconscious direction is to cause me harm. I am here to enjoy the life that Mother Earth gave me." ~ Ellen Jean Zoltak

Prototypian

I actually work in the world of AI and advanced modeling and oddly enough I only use it for coding and math solving.   I have an irrational fear of becoming less creative by relying on something that tries to do things for me.   But I probably have lots of irrational fears that don't make sense.   Sometimes I worry that I'll eventually be working with a virtual doctor or therapist and won't know it and then I'll have a "tingling spider sense" that things aren't quite right but I'll trust the doc anyway even though it's a virtual ai system. 

That's the kind of thjng I have anxiety about!   
It is unwise to seek prominence in a field whose routine chores you do not enjoy.

-Wolfgang Pauli

walking on broken glass

I must say, I did use it to simulate a conversation between my mother and me, and it gave me fabulous ideas for answers and emotional support! I was amazed.
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum

GoodPesto

There is one more sceptic. I am not quite able to put my finger on it with regards to why but I happen to find this whole idea creepy.

Rebel13

Here's a podcast episode with neuropsychologist and therapist Dr Rick Hanson where he and his son Forrest discuss, among other things, using AI as a therapist. I haven't listened to it yet, but let me know what you think about it if you listen.
"Being humanitarian, being kind and loving, does not include entrusting my life or well-being to anyone whose intention or unconscious direction is to cause me harm. I am here to enjoy the life that Mother Earth gave me." ~ Ellen Jean Zoltak

walking on broken glass

I haven't listened to the podcast but I can say with certainty that replacing a therapist with AI is not a good idea. There is no nuance, no real back and forth, no context, no personal and personable interaction. It's the same argument for not replacing teachers and educators with AI. We need the human contact and the human contribution. But I don't think that using AI as a tool in addition to therapy (I even plan to bring the AI discussion to my therapist) is harmful; or perhaps, using it with caution, after you have been in therapy and are aware of the basic principles.

What scares me is that companies and organizations may use it as a tool for the 'support' of their employees' mental health and wellbeing, instead of investing in practices of actual health care (a bit like offering reduced fee massage sessions instead of making actual changes in employees' work load and work experience). Anything for a profit...
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downwiththefog

Quote from: walking on broken glass on May 29, 2025, 09:58:47 AMI must say, I did use it to simulate a conversation between my mother and me, and it gave me fabulous ideas for answers and emotional support! I was amazed.

yes, gave me too very good ideas for answering unemotionally

1footouttadefog

I have enjoyed having some good conversations with Grok about science. 

I had huge curiosity about the linear accelerator that was used for my radiation recently. 

I asked lots of questions and we even sort of played a clue like game of trying to figure out what make and model of machine based on the sounds and movements I had observed. 

We also figured out what type of radiation plan I was being given. 

At some point I was asking questions about what sort of metal was used in the cathode and how different metals have been used over time. 

I don't expect a doctor to entertain. Teaching me about radiology topics or how that machine works, why I hear both servos and actuators, when the shutter leaves are being adjusted etc etc


Grok is patient and will keep trying to help me understand scientific topics.

I think the same would be the case with human interactions and psychology topics.

I think however one must keep in mind that the answers are based on an average of the literature and studies it has been trained with and that the specifics of your individual case might be overlooked.