Aspergers crossover with PD schizoid?

Started by Hazy111, August 31, 2021, 08:02:33 AM

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Hazy111

I was thinking about my Dad a lot recently. It was triggered by some some research out about Asperger's Syndrome and how it maybe much more common than recognised.

High functioning Asperger's dont necessarily have unhappy lives and dont suffer depression and anxiety as long as their needs are met and dont have over stimulation.

I got thinking about my father who i thought originally as a narcissist when I discovered PD. He would love to "hold court" whenever he could trap someone and monologue away without interruption. There seemed to be a lack of empathy and cunning/manipulative nature with him. If confronted over some subject he would he would love a withering contemptuous putdown. He rarely got angry. But there was never an apology, never a sorry from Dad.

He seemed to be emotionally detached from the family. He would engross himself in the spare room reading the newspaper smoking away or in the latest book he got from the library. Or he was at his club, holding court with his cronies.

He was famous for his daydreaming at anytime of day and we would sometimes watch him talking to himself rubbing his hands furiously locked in his fantasy world staring into the distance (When he did this in the Supermarket my mother would go mad at him.< triggering her chronic shame) I now know this to be a form of disassociation and as i learnt more i think he was more schizoid .

But I was thinking about our pet cat that we had for 17 years. My mother fed her , (but neurotically wouldnt stroke her as she hated the feel of the fur. ) My Dad though in all the years, i never saw him pet her, speak to her, stroke her or engage at all.  She would sit on my lap and i would stroke her, but he had no feelings for her at all, pro or anti and it seemed that this was a metaphor for how he felt about the  family, emotionally disengaged for most of it.

I only saw him cry twice. Once his cousin died (like a  brother to him)  and at the graveside  of the funeral of his mother. It was a real shock to me . Id never see him show any real emotions.

Hes never complained about depression or  any mental health issues.

I wonder if others had such a father?

Hazy111

Ohh, something id like to add, he had a really boring repetitive job as a printer but he was very intelligent . But he never complained about it. Now when i think about it, how could he do it for so many years ? But if he has Aspergers/Schizoid PD the regularity and repetition with little human interaction appealed to him

blacksheep7

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Quote from: Hazy111 on August 31, 2021, 08:12:18 AM
Ohh, something id like to add, he had a really boring repetitive job as a printer but he was very intelligent . But he never complained about it. Now when i think about it, how could he do it for so many years ? But if he has Aspergers/Schizoid PD the regularity and repetition with little human interaction appealed to him

Imo, being Schizoid,  your  father probably kept his job because it was safe and predictable. No anxiety.  I don't know much about Aspergers.

My sister checks many of the boxes for the Schizoid personality. Has no friends, I was the only one, a superficial relationship. She always dreaded learning something new, especially at work, never wanting to climb the ladder.  She needs that safe routine that keeps her happy because of her lack of self-esteem/self-worth.  In her adult life she had a couple of depersonalization episodes because of childhood trauma.

It's difficult to have a family member that does not display emotions, especially a parent.  I'm sorry.
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