Public Figures, Amateur Diagnosis and Other Such Discussions

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Public Figures, Amateur Diagnosis and Other Such Discussions
« on: October 10, 2016, 03:13:04 PM »
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Posting how a public figure's behavior reminds one of a PD person in your life is different from discussion and amateur diagnosis of public figures which isn't supportive of the goals of Out of the FOG forum.

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« Last Edit: October 10, 2016, 07:39:46 PM by Spring Butterfly »
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Re: Public Figures, Amateur Diagnosis and Other Such Discussions
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2017, 05:32:49 PM »
I completely respect this decision and see the need for it.

However, let's say a public figure really DOES trigger you and reminds you of a PD person in your life? Do you have any recommendations where one could go for such a discussion if they are not encouraged and subject to removal here?

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Re: Public Figures, Amateur Diagnosis and Other Such Discussions
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2017, 07:16:42 PM »
that's a good question- i myself have participated in a  couple of groups on social media where that kind of discussion has taken place

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Re: Public Figures, Amateur Diagnosis and Other Such Discussions
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2019, 05:40:54 PM »
I just saw a short documentary put together by mental health professionals citing their strong opinion that all presidents should undergo certain psychological testing that is required of all people who have access to "The Button" because Presidents are in fact able to tell those others when to push said button, but without having to take those same tests and pass that same standard of psychological scrutiny.

The further state their position that they are required to help people FIRST and keep them safe, and NOT speaking out about a public figure just because s(he) is a public figure when that persons shows signs of danger to others (by, say, pushing the button) would in fact be a violation of that first primary responsibility they have to the safety of their clients AND THE PUBLIC.

As for Amateur diagnoses, I seem to recall reading from the book by the founder of this site that he had to write this book himself, as a non mental health professional, bringing together information that was cloistered up in the world of professional psychiatry, that doesn't generally even want to touch this stuff, leaving families dealing with this, as he put it "on their own".

So, in a sense none of us would be here without Amateur diagnoses... Sometimes they are necessary.

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Re: Public Figures, Amateur Diagnosis and Other Such Discussions
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2019, 07:14:16 PM »
Thanks for your thoughts and this forum is focused on our own healing rather than diagnosing public figures. We focus on behaviors rather than diagnosing those in our personal life we feel display PD behaviors. Some members feel better putting a name to it if they believe it might help their healing from damage toxic person's in their personal life cause.


ETA sticky posts are informational and customarily locked so locking this one.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2019, 08:24:15 PM by Spring Butterfly »
Every interaction w/ PD persons results in damage. Plan accordingly, make time to heal
Individuation is the key to emotional freedom
It's foolish to expect of others what they have no capacity to give
If others were self observant, introspective, this forum would not exist